Actually it’s

NOT funny



one of our alters

changed it

to reflect

the truth

about DID

  • so, if you want the original –  funny one

and have a good laughter,

click here

otherwise proceed with caution…

The joke… not funny anymore

Q: How many alters does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Four.

One to  change be used as a means by a perpetrator changing the bulb,

one to watch the abuse,

one to deny the abuse in the name of the bulb needing to be changed exactly the way it was done,

and one to repress the associations/memories/emotions about it.

Now, try to google the joke by clicking the link
How many alters does it take to change a light bulb? (<– click)
and see
another joke
(this one made by google)


You must be joking, google, No! I did NOT mean letters

obviously making another (meta-)joke –

i.e. joke about the joke

– yourself, don’t you, Google?!? ;)

Meta-source: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/15007374035221757547/BDQgkQgoQyaHQ7_gj


Below you can read an example of Victimization Sequelae’s morbid hatred at abusers.

As it was written by my very very nice and intellectual host at his blog posts today (my host Samo is extremely proud of  the fact that the extremely morbid hatred at abusers was not expressed by him, by the way), the driving force behind every “personality” switch is avoidance of an extreme emotion (and the emphasis is on extreme, not emotion itself!).

However, he will have to let me at least quote “An Open Letter to the Wikipedia “editor” of DID article”  in which another alter (he later was allowed to have his own blog) whose extreme emotions were triggered by what he saw at Wikipedia article on DID.

He expressed what he felt like doing afterwards:






only proceed with the maximum caution






expressing extremely morbid hatred at abusers and towards people who publicly make it harder for dissociation sufferers to 1. understand what is it happening to them, 2. acknowledge it, 3. get helped for it (not something similar or completely different, like for example, hysteria or psychosis etc, but for DID)







triggering – last warning!




So, DreamGuy, you are publicly making it harder for dissociation sufferers to be able to achieve all three things, huh?

I could sue you for what you are doing publicly, denying DID and telling the sufferers that they only pretend to have parts that contain the extreme responses to victimization!

Will I sue you DreamGuy? No!!!!! I want you to suffer the way DIDers had to suffer prior to becoming DIDers, the way they suffered you will!!!!!! Then I will tell you that what you are experiencing it’s just pretending ha ha ha ha

Get ready – Dreaming Guy – to wake up into a living night mare!!!!!  ha ha ha ha ha

You will be glad to become dissociative yourself in order to cope with the nightmare I will turn your  dream life into!

It’s not a matter of (Neutral) Point of View that you are hiding behind at Wikipedia, no, it is now a matter of life and death, death in your case …. ha ha ha ha

Get ready DreamGuy to pay for it!

I am an expert in making you suffer up to the point where you will dissociate because my abusers have made me one ha ha ha ha welcome to the dissociative paradise!

I have nothing to lose – I have lost myself long long ago ha ha ha ha ha

I will track you down and that scientist who claims that child sexual abuse has no clinically significant consequences and will rape you both ha ha ha ha ha

and you won’t be able to tell anyone ‘cos I will do it so that it will look like as if you wanted to happen, anyway ha ha ha ha ha

and you will be so humiliated that you will want to commit suicide ha ha ha ha ha

No mercy for those assisting abusers the way you do it publicly!


In our country after the war the pro-Nazi quislings and people like you who allied with the aggressors/abusers were butchered and thrown into the abysses/mine holes, you deserve to have the same fate ha ha ha ha ha

End of quote.

This is an example of expression of extremely morbid hatred contained within one of my alters and put down on the paper and then transcribed and quoted here in order to integrate him with the rest of our alters so that he would not need to direct the triggered hatred toward ourselves with suicidal ideation, self-injury etc

We thank our alter for keeping those emotions away from us for such a long time and welcome him in our midst because we feel this is the only way the extreme emotions can be transformed into something creative and non-threatening to others and ourselves. Thanks again, unnamed alter!

You’re welcome…

wow said my inner child.

“Wow”, repeated my host… others as well expressed their gratitude for letting the emotions being transformed through (creative) writing, letting them the Light to replace the darkness where they were hiding so long unacknowledged by us.

We are sorry that we weren’t able to get help to do it sooner.

But better late than never, we suppose :)

Somebody want to cry from being moved now. Cry, baby, cry says a soothing “voice” of Love.


Below is an excerpt from the Frank Ochberg’s webpage:

Proposed Diagnostic Criteria for Victimization Sequelae Syndrome/Disorder

A. The experience (or witnessing) of one or more episodes of physical violence or psychological abuse or of being coerced into sexual activity by another person.

B. The development of at least (number to be determined) of the following symptoms (not present before the victimization experiences):

1. A generalized sense of being ineffective in dealing with one’s environment that is not limited to the victimization experience (e.g., generalized passivity, lack of assertiveness, or lack of confidence in one’s own judgment).

2. The belief that one has been permanently damaged by the victimization experience (e.g., a sexually abused child or rape victim believing that he or she will never be attractive to others).

3. Feeling isolated or unable to trust or to be intimate with others.

4. Over inhibition of anger or excessive expression of anger.

5. Inappropriate minimizing of the injuries that were inflicted.

6. Amnesia for the victimization experiences.

7. Belief that one deserved to be victimized, rather than blaming the perpetrator.

8. Vulnerability to being revictimized.

9. Adopting the distorted beliefs of the perpetrator with regard to interpersonal behavior (e.g., believing that it is OK for parents to have sex with their children, or that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife to keep her obedient).

10. Inappropriate idealization of the perpetrator.

C. Duration of the disturbance of at least one month.

Appendix 2

Victimization Symptoms: A Distinct Subcategory of Traumatic Stress

1. Shame: Deep embarrassment, often characterized as humiliation or mortification.

2. Self-blame: Exaggerated feelings of responsibility for the traumatic event, with guilt and remorse, despite obvious evidence of innocence.

3. Subjugation: Feeling belittled, dehumanized, lowered in dominance, and powerless as a direct result of the trauma.

4. Morbid hatred: Obsessions of vengeance and preoccupation with hurting or humiliating the perpetrator, with or without outbursts of anger or rage.

5. Paradoxical gratitude: Positive feelings toward the victimizer ranging from compassion to romantic love, including attachment but not necessarily identification. The feelings are usually experienced as ironic but profound gratitude for the gift of life from one who has demonstrated the will to kill. (Also known as pathological transference and/or Stockholm syndrome).

6. Defilement: Feeling dirty, disgusted, disgusting, tainted, “like spoiled goods,” and in extreme cases, rotten and evil.

7. Sexual inhibition: Loss of libido, reduced capacity for intimacy, more frequently associated with sexual assault.

8. Resignation: A state of broken will or despair, often associated with repetitive victimization or prolonged exploitation, with markedly diminished interest in past or future.

9. Second injury or second wound: Revictimization through participation in the criminal justice, health, mental health, and other systems.

10. Socioeconomic status downward drift: Reduction of opportunity or life-style, and increased risk of repeat criminal victimization due to psychological, social, and vocational impairment.


Steps that lead to outer and inner events repressing:

-firstly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of *disgust* (the most overlooked emotion of all).

-secondly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of *anger* (“fight response“).

-thirdly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of *fear* (“flight” or “freeze response”/PTSD).

-fourthly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of *sadness* (depression or self-destructiveness and working-out to the point of exhaustion or self-injury).

-fifthly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of *paradoxical gratitude* (it is one of the Frank Ochberg’s Victimization Sequelae Disorder symptoms listed here – see under Appendix 2,  numer 5, called also “Stockholm Syndrome”).

-sixthly, the rightful and natural and valid expressions of  *compensatory grandiosity* (the emphasis is to be put on compensatory because this kind of grandiosity serves the role of compensating for our system’s (personal) worthlessness feelings  caused by abusers, but triggered by slightly similar situations later in life, as well) .

What is “it”?

Professionals should have known “it” long ago! But they obviously don’t know “it”, (yet?).

Are there any pros able to teach the DIDers’ (hosts) that the alters who are being called “EatingDisordered”  in fact just happen to not know how to express “it” otherwise!

“It” being the (forbidden but rightful and natural) disgust at certain things (such as sex without everyone’s consent within).

Are there any real pros able to teach them instead the creative ways to express the (forbidden but rightful and natural) disgust at certain things?


Actually it is *not* the little dots – it is the whole continents (if not the Universes) of internal space that are getting tentatively connected.

Kathy Broady was asking questions here that one of my spaces was offering the pictured answer to, see below:

It was a boy chick

He – the host (what kind of host is he anyway?:) ) – has sold us out.  Plainly and simply.  Us –  his “beloved” (oh, come on, spend me this) alters.

He should be ashamed of himself for giving up on his – now he calls us beloved, can you imagine? – alters the very moment he saw the expression on his wife’s face, when he tried to be open with her that talking to us – his alters  – is something he was going to do, and she reproached him that it will only make him worse, more self-absorbed after he gets home because he was going to process the stuff being exchanged between the alters and him, and he was not going to be emotionally available  “here and now” for the wife and for his two sons who needed him to be their daddy when he comes home from work… That is what she said. And he agreed.

He sold us out in order to make his wife happy, and his children.

Our host however did something good, as well.

He changed our mobile phone number and so stopped the father from calling us and talking AT us instead of WITH us.

We congratulate him for that and feel relieved because he did it for us.

Thank you, host!

Hip hip hurray, hi hip hurray for the host:) hehe